they get the average hard- working, tax pain average american. >> talking about individual guns. >> one bill bans all kinds of guns used for target shooting, hunting, personal protection, and yet, on the other hand, she accepts guns and has the exact same performance characteristics as the guns she does not have. gun owners know the truth. that is why gun owners in this country, the 100 million, get upset about this stuff. they are the victims of these lies about taking the term assault and applying it to firearms. they know the truth inherently. a look at their heads and they shake their head and say, none of this makes any sense. >> i appreciate that. let me ask you this. in your testimony, you state all women interested -- jurisdictions with concealed laws reap the benefits even if they choose not to have weapons themselves. please explain why. >> he mentioned gun owners are very concerned about all of these burdens possibly put on law abiding citizens. i will tell you non-gun owners are concerned about this, too. you do not have to choose to carry to be the beneficiary of laws that